Above a Whisper
If they need out, they'll get out.
posted by jm at 4:19 AM
Monday, November 16, 2009
If they need out, they'll get out.
About Me
- Name: jm
I am a brilliant creation of the universe formed from the cosmic protoplasm sailing into eternity. I have two hands, two feet, a couple of great ears, and I'm clipping through life at a moderate pace; minding my p*s and q*s, crossing my t*s, dotting every i.
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I'm taken your lead and I'm taking a sabbatical. It's time to go inwards. I need to pare everything down a thousand notches. I love the title of this post, and I'm going to borrow the sentiment for my inspiration.:)
Yeah it gets squirmy and overstated. I love paring down.
Mars in Leo is a treasured transit for me with my Saturn like yours, so I'm going to do my best to make the most of it. I'm also going inwards, but oddly, outwards, too, discovering new nooks in my town which is brimming with creative life. I expect an increase in the next six months and plan to ride it up.
I like that. "A thousand notches".
These sabbaticals are contagious! I've been considering one, myself, only more along the lines of a hermitage.
Joe! Yes man. The hermitage is an all time favorite.
What's weird is that I made no mention of the journey, yet chris knew. Actually she verified my decision.
I'll be in the environs but inspiration calls and believe it or not ... a trip to the more positive!:o) Politics is not my cup of tea. I've turned to ginger with a dash of peppermint. Something a drop more gentle, easy on the stomach.
I've decided to forego certainty and become as insecure as possible. See where it leads me. Security is for the birds. My blankets are going. Along with the pacifiers.
I can't believe you two mean business about this what with Libra involved. The reality is Saturn in Libra (now on your Pluto Joe, my Mars) is nudging us in the direction of great relationships in synch with our goals. New and improved if we let go and make room. Sounds good to me.
Things are going to be all right.
Indeed very unexpected. I would expect that Saturn would require work on relationships with others but when I think about it, who says it has to be other people? It could easily be an impetus to develop a relationship with myself.
BTW I meant to say, the image in your "Likewise" post is so you! :o)
Joe, it's amazing that you should say this. How did you know?
I've been trying to decide on my stage image and sort of stick to it. I dress like Likewise quite often and it happens to be the audience favorite. So I've come full circle to the quintessential me leaving me on RU with myself as an eternal reminder. Thank you heartily for this verification. It feels good. I do love decisions.
Who says it has to be other people? It could easily be an impetus to develop a relationship with myself.
Exactly. That's what Saturn in the 1st is.
It's good to remember that when transits come around they will always head back to the natal placement of the transiting planet to give you the best clue on how to proceed. We work on Saturn all our lives ideally.
I have a few tips that might be useful...
The country is now in a period of regression. I don't want to go there myself, and I have my own undertow to deal with. So it's a good time for people to seek their individual sources and resources like some of us are feeling.
Jupiter is entering Pisces soon for more journeys to inner dimensions. I doubt that much will be happening out there for some time as the dissolution completes itself. It's frustrating to keep hoping for something that isn't coming. Personal progress is a great antidote.
It's helpful to have an idea of what's ahead, like the weather report, so you can prepare accordingly. But relentless worry about predicting the future can wear you down. If people continue to do that, when they get there it will be more of the same since the future never conforms to their dictatorial constructs. Dissatisfaction with the present becomes dissatisfaction with the future which is now present. Nor do the planets dictate. It's an infinite combo of factors that create present life. We adjust to circumstance as it comes. I know we're prepared deep down.
The hope thingy was a good way to address the overall problem in this upbeat happy be-positive society that is in reality, depressed. The coverup is thinning and I think people want to stop pretending so much.
All the surges of excitement seem to be landing to repeated disappointment. But after that comes surrender which can be a sublime relief. That's the point of the upcoming Pisces ending. But you have to be with it, losing the future for a second.
Your advice is good, joe. To work on yourself.
And thanks again for Likewise. It's a pleasure to be known.
Tonight I ran across a couple of Fellini quotes that interested me. He was asked about the mental confusion critically attributed to his character. (Saturn-Neptune conjunction).
The thought about mental confusion is typical of a reactionary and dogmatic attitude. They think one should have crystal-clear ideas about everything. That everything should be interpreted according to strict rules of rationality. They leave no room for doubt.
I think that the vital confusion of life is our salvation against these dogmatic mummifications.
I agree. "Vital confusion".
And this one is in perfect synch with my blog entry and previous discussions we've had here...
What is the feeling or emotion that inspires and nourishes you most?
Fellini: I don't know. Perhaps the attempt to recapture, to hear once more an utterance that's been interrupted, repeated, each time with a weaker and weaker voice, until I could no longer hear it. This feeling of grasping at the frayed ends of a broken string.
I realize I'm being a little lyrical but if you want me to tell you what is most nourishing and stimulating to my way of expressing myself, of living, I'd have to say this: straining to hear something that's been nearly forgotten.
We're connected by these threads. Another artist, another era.
Not sure how I knew. It might have to do with how you "appeared" way back when, in that doom'n'gloom blog. No one could figure you out, but you clearly knew what you were talking about, which brings out the reactionaries who want to be in charge. I still don't have any idea what you really look like except for Tseka's "raven-haired beauty" comment but the Likewise image still seems to match you. :o)
Ha ha! I'm ever so slowly turning into a salt and pepper beauty.
Tseka, the caretaker of our images, has some photos. She can send them on.
Done, you are flying as electrons, even as I type. Flying as electrons, now that is something that attracts...
Good to check in and read here this am. I lost my internet for a bit, mostly I did not mind. I've been in that place you all are describing for some time now. Not anti-social but neither have I been too available. It's been pleasant.
I love traveling light.
in all ways mon cher
you are flying as electrons,
Salt and pepper are elementary particles, are they not? ;o)
Undoubtedly yes. Universally fundamental.
Your raging is missed...
This is wonderfully amazing. I had a sneaky feeling.
Several hours ago I decided to post an article and I knew someone would pick up on it telepathically.
Really really good. Destiny has its demands and makes the most unusual choices. Timing is everything.
Tune in for more raging and thanks for the reminder of the miraculous. It's all worth it.
;o)
Merry Life, JM, from my Jupiter to you!
Chris.:o)
Well, got no fizzy libations nor even any cheese-its but do have some mighty fine hugs for you m'dear. Just dropping by to thank you for your presence in my life and wish you the very best - always.
with warm thoughts flowing eastward on this chilly night, e.
Ooooh ... thanks for the the hugs and thoughts. And everything else. Plus. Happy birthday.
I'm not fizzling either. I checked my blood pressure and it came in at 114/74. Pulse 60. It's good to know I'm as calm as ever!
It's those warm thoughts.
The way you distill the essence of the story in the midst of such total chaos is simply astounding. :o)
Joe, thank you. What a beautiful compliment. It makes me feel like a chemist which tickles my heart. :o)
Just caught up with all our recent posts - I've spent several weeks with a sticky ssssssssssssss key on my computer and finally have replaced it.
A dip into raging universe and my world shifts into the divine. Your writing is always such a treat. Your style must be similar to the way you sing; pitch perfect with a bit of sass. It goes down smooth.
Great work JM, lots to ponder.
Many thanks.
St.B
It stuck me as I looked at the chart for Haiti's earthquake that the ascendant is smack in the center of Cancer, the mythical umbilicus and there sits Haiti so close to the tropic of Cancer right at the navel of the globe.
Sticky B!! A sticky s. LOL!
I was thinking of throwing out my computer, speaking of being stuck ...
Thank you so much for acknowledging the Invisible One. The comment you made about my writing and music is exactly what mpk wrote in his last e-mail, and I'm pleased that it's getting through to say the least. Rhythm makes everything go down smoothly for me. The best medicine I know.
The sass factor is important and I even wrote a song about it! I love that word.
As usual I feel like I'm swimming upstream against an exceptionally strong current and sometimes I'd like to try another mode of transportation. But if I did, I'd find exactly the same situation since it originates with me and my particular challenges. The more I live, the more I see how stable things basically are and change is completely relative. It's like the weather. The fundamentals of personality are a powerful driving force. I think rather than change them, the best approach is to make good use of them. My glorious Aries conflict and singularity.
What a treat to find you here tonight. The last comment is fascinating and deserves a space of its own.
Thank you, tseka, for this beautiful fulfilling insight into the earthquake chart. I did not think of it. Especially Haiti and the Tropic of Cancer. A deep and centered tremor.
I was profoundly affected by the event and I'm still pondering the ramifications. I've not ever experienced a natural disaster in this personal way. I had a religious experience in Haiti with my mother (not her - she was an atheist!) In fact, she denigrated my religiosity at the time, all food for thought. My week in Haiti that reverberates for a lifetime.
The image that still stands out is the first night when darkness descended and the people were trapped under the earth in the black quiet, waiting for who knew what? Some for rescue, some for death. All activity suspended. Oh how it touched me, that vast pregnant stillness, and the relation to the naval surpasses anything I've heard yet. In the dark, in the womb, completely dependent on circumstance. Some being born again into life, some being born into death and aren't they equal? What an insight.
Anyway, there is a lot going on with this and it's only the beginning. The shake up at the naval of the globe makes complete sense with Cancer-Cap and the nodes there too. This is wonderful to contemplate. I do believe our collective insecurity got a rise leading to some speck of mature growth.
It figures in strongly with the United States being on her Cancer Sun. I was distressed at how quickly it was forgotten, but in truth, it hasn't been. Here come the repercussions. The daily superficiality still irks me but it has to be there for contrast. We can't be having shattering experiences too often and and the most important things happen in cognito. So let the news be news. It's benign.
Haitian music has the best rhythm on the planet. The repercussions might not be all that bad right there in that umbilicus.
Thanks again for this. The musician in me has woken up from her nap.
Cancer, the night, sleep, and imagination. An awakened sleep, that first night when humanity imagined together in the dark, thinking about safety.
Then came the dawn and the struggle for survival began. Good ol' birth. Umbilicus dominus.
Thanks for this early morning reply, hope to drop by maybe later tonight. Thoughts have been rolling around like a gentle waves upon a shore within me. Haiti is part of it.
Typing in the dark so I can chat with you a moment and watch the light move across the desert before dawn.
I am off momentarily to do the Saturday Farmer's market, tell some stories and flog my talismans. Grocery money in a nice community exchange.
Ahhh ... the pre-dawn desert light. And coming groceries honestly procured.
I'll be here.
Hi JM!
I'm down in mexico, writing and paint/drawing. I've never been here before but I feel safe, and at home. Following dreams has that effect I guess...
love to you
chrispito
Chris! Excellent news. You know I lived in Mexico and that's where I started my serious song writing. I think some of us can make a dream world wherever we land.
That's exactly what I did. I started each day drawing then finished by writing. And I also did my one and only oil painting .. a zucchini field with a mountain backdrop. I hope to do more.
Nice, can you check my blog out? www.aimsmakeupforever.blogspot.com
Criticism & Humility
Thank you...
Yours to keep.
Love that ol' Moon-Joop scoop! :o)
Joe. A huge smile with all my ancient teeth just mapped itself across my lower face accompanied by a flush in the thoracic region.
What a pleasure.:O)
"If they need out, they'll get out."
Yeah, you got that right.
It's a deeply revealing time now. Things long hidden brought to view in many areas.
It's part of something broader. The unseen is closer to the edges of awareness -- the boundaries between worlds, seen and unseen, are thinning.
Remarkable eclipse configuration, too.
Some people will be afraid but I say, Oh, baby! Time to pick things up a bit.
Maybe I'll vacuum, too.
Vacuum???? Are you serious? Mine is poised to do the stairs right now. Been that way for more days than I'm going to reveal. It's a secret.:-)
Some people will be afraid but I say, Oh, baby! Time to pick things up a bit.
Some will always be afraid. They need to be.
It probably will slow down when Jupiter and Uranus return to Pisces. I really don't see the dramatic uptick and cosmic shift insisted upon. I think things might slow quite a bit under the influence of metered Capricorn with spurts of speed as it moves forward.
I completely agree about the current revelations. I wonder what "broader" something there is yet to be unearthed.
The unseen world. Yes. Beneath the ocean floor. Purgatory uncapped. I think there will eventually be great relief in some ways. There already is, really as illusions billow away.
The return to Pisces should be very interesting. Uranus doesn't leave until March '11 talk about boundaries between worlds thinning. The loss of control is one of the most intriguing parts for me. Waiting for destiny, predictions being rather difficult. What is this thing called fate?
Yeah, vaccuum, quickest way to hide the dust pookas before the Sunday afternoon guests arrived. And a bit of Windex for that sparkling window onto the world.
"I completely agree about the current revelations. I wonder what "broader" something there is yet to be unearthed."
Well, for me it would probably be an opening to spirit identity.
Thankfully much less disruptive, say, than discovering that one's parents are foreign spies on assignment who have children together as part of their cover.
Gee, if foreign spies can get married, why can't Uncle Tim and Victor, heh.
OMG! Simply must share! Surely Pluto rules mycelium fungus (mushrooms). Take a look at this mycologist who is saying that these organisms can help reduce pollution and the effects of the oil gush.
http://fungi.com/mycotech/petroleum_problem.html
I had a flash, reading this, that this groundbreaking topic might be another outgrowth of Pluto in Cap because fungi literally populate and infiltrate the earth under us, and of course break down and recycle dead things into nutrients for other living things to use. It's like the Earth's own Internet if we could just learn to read it.
More:
Paul Stamets on 6 ways mushrooms can save the world.
We know very little about this subject. Astonishing!
Yep. Pluto and mushrooms along with the moon and Saturn according to my rulership book. So it fits perfectly.
I believe the earth, although not the end all be all controller, is more in control than we are and will let us know what to do. That's a good way of putting it -- reading the earth.
The article is very interesting and moving in the right direction. The idea of finding ways to correct spills makes sense since oil use is going to continue for a long while. Funding for these developments is just as important as for alternative fuels.
My recipe for salvation:
mushrooms and hemp.
Oh and btw ... I think Uncle Tim and Victor did get married ... in Iceland.
The Prime Minister of that little nation just wed her girl friend, first governmental head to enter into such a match. History marches forth.
Saturn for the structure, but the Moon? for the hidden, subconscious/unconscious nature of mycology?
History marches forth.
I'm glad. :o)
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Blogger Tseka said...
JM! fabulous articles, I am now caught up. Amazing work as always. I've missed your voice. My own (at least on the internet had been silenced for a while, many loses, now slowly the balancing act of recovery. Or maybe not, I don't think the letting go is quite finished yet. But as you have pointed out it gets easier with practice.
I was thinking about sneaking in some fireworks for tomorrow, nothing too dangerous, maybe just some sparklers. That's what we called them, the wands that fizzle with blue-white light. We can write our names in the night sky or affirmations maybe.
There is still a lot to celebrate. You ask what to get this country for her birthday? My grandparents had nothing, what they held as their most sacred possession was the sovereign self in harmony with the sacred land. The gift I give to my country and myself will be actively remembering this.
Sacred blogger Tseka. So good to hear you.
My grandparents had nothing as well, except eight bouncing lovely children during a depression. They had a few chickens though, and they entered the egg business. All went well. Eventually.
I don't think the letting go is ever finished until the end. That's why I think that moment must be the best we experience.
Letting go of the Internet in whatever capacity is a great thing. I've been studying and formulating ...
I'll go along with names in the sky. Good gift idea.
Fulfilling Independence my love!
I just posted a holiday invite to come for a visit and then changed my mind about staying in. I need straws for my kool aid. As it stands now, I don't know! So play by ear is still the MO.
Speaking of ears, the rocket's joy gets loud, the red glare blinding. War is altogether too loud for me. Sparklers are more up my street. And those curly charred worms.
The innocence remains.
Hey you're home. I have thought of you so often with a heart full of thanks. I was remembering you to my mother just yesterday, remembering the help you offered us about my brother. I was spinning about what to do and you offered me just the right insight. I cannot thank you enough for your gifts, for sharing them in the way you do. You make it easy to receive, a rare talent.
BTW, it turned out just as you predicted, M is the favorite surrounded by his doting aides. After 5 surgeries, 6 if we count the complete dentures, he walks. From tri-plegic sliding to a quad he is up on his pegs again, good use of both arms/hands. Just walking short distances with an aide, using his walker more and more with his motorized wheelchair reserved for long hauls now.
If I were not completely broke, i'd be filling up your coffers, I only have my thanks to offer you, my friend, for all the good advice you gave.
I've encountered true angels on this earth in the last couple of years, I'm pretty sure you are one.
Heh, curly charred worms...don't know them but they are on the list. On the rez you can still buy fireworks. They are banned everywhere I've lived except there. Every wedding and celebration requires rockets over the bay and some dazzling explosions to send the newly weds off on their journey.
Oh. Oh oh. What wonderful sounds to my weary ears. An angel? Sometimes, I admit it. One has to be sometimes. I'm trying to delete some of the base elements but I probably should just let myself be. Not hurting people is an extreme pleasure and I've put that high on the list.
And omg. He's walking. I'm so very glad he's content. Wonderful wonderful news.
My coffers? Heck. They'll get filled at the right time. Or at least added to. Empty is a good place to start.
Ha ha. Explosions for the newlyweds. What a journey. I'm always amused at the extent of utter drunkenness at weddings.
I feel similarly about the sensations you've given me. The ease of reception is an interesting one. I've been editing that in my life and you are one that permeates with no question.
I'm bracing myself for Saturn in Libra because I am wise and I know. Good solid relationships are in the cards. I'm going to do it right.
There's a lot to cover. I was thinking of closing both blogs but something keeps stopping that action so I'll go along with the inner engine.
For now, I'll keep them vibrating and maybe post a little more here so we can chat when the spirit moves us. I'm building my music blog so I'll be around for awhile. It takes hours and hours just to decide on the exact shade for a border, let alone all the choice words used to describe my particular genius. Or simply my appeal.
Speaking of those relationships ... an artist I met last night told me that another woman (the artist who owns the gallery) invited her to show and pretty much is responsible for helping her launch her new art career. And they're both selling. I was moved by that.
The new one directed me to the place to build my website so the network is getting started. I'm kind of enthused.
OK.
I've parked my car and I've been walking around the city studying the neighborhoods and a lot is happening. People are going back to basics -- tiny businesses, highly creative, and staffed by themselves. Some are thriving amidst the failures.
People are disturbed by the signs of the times out there and some are retreating and building their own lives while keeping the collective troubles in mind. The men I meet seem more engaged in the outer troubles maybe because so many of them are in the financial fields.
It's an odd mixture of collective sorrow and anticipation of something different. I think the smart ones are preparing by pulling in, contracting, and attending to hard kernels of potential.
Interesting report. Both about the artist selling and the changes in your city.
I know two artists who had the best years of their lives last year. But most of my friends are done in by the lack of sales.
I have been living on so little for so long that I squeak by. i can't even worry about it.
The new music site sounds wonderful and I look forward to seeing & listening(?) soon.
I too am looking forward to Saturn moving into Libra and finally completing the square to my sun. Saturn in Libra is exalted, let's aim high! Maybe we can be wise elders in training? Do you think we need some wheels for that? You have those dancing shoes that might be enough. I may just have to settle for painted toenails, (a gift from a friend who thinks I could do better heheh)
I am so drawn to the image on this post, every time I come here it makes me smile.
Secrets. I have been uncovering some, finding the paths of my ancestors. Not surprising, I found my father's family is part Sami threads lost on an ocean voyage recovered by electons flowing in the night.
In times past during the tsetseka the winter dances, the people would chant the rememberance of all the ancestors. No one was forgotten, the dead were always alive among the living. So many in my past were targets of extermination. They hid identities. America was good to them, they could just be. Finding their pasts, uncovering their secrets has been a rounding of the circle, a great healing. I had no idea how much this would mean to me nor for my parents.
As Kadimiros suggested, we are moving through a thinning of the veil, memory of self/not self is such an opportunity. Saturn in Libra with the Sun moving through the GC seems so much like a signature for balancing our lives to embrace the new.
I love Saturn in Libra. It has a round and complete feel to it. A big balanced ball of gravity. It's good for rhythm.
I think that's the situation as far as success goes. Some are going to have lots of difficulties and some are going to find success they never had. Depressions are known for triggering huge successes in odd places. Here's a tidbit...
The artist said, and I was thinking it would happen this way, that people are looking for value ...good prices, work leaning toward the traditional, and things they really like. Of course, the wealthy are getting even richer so they're still looking for emerging greats. An unusual twist in my senses has me going to more traditional galleries lately, something I rarely did.
But basically it's scaling down and the selling points are elegance, economy, even maybe, good taste. She told me that abstract art is not selling as well now.
That gives me ideas in terms of my show. I battle between the avant garde and traditional, such as old standards, so going with subdued and comfortable might work. Embracing the new is part of it, but remembering the old is indicated by Capricorn and the memories of a culture are essential.
American karma, the good and the bad, balances out as with most entities.
Yes, we remember in the 80s that photo realism and western art sold very well. People who always have money in every financial period prefer things that do not stretch their imagination. Maybe to make and hold on to that money requires a certain mindset?
One of my friends, who is doing well, makes beautiful garments, hand painted silk, lovely. The other has shifted from fairly traditional imagery on gourds to highly ornamented, brightly painted and glossy finishes.
It's hard to say. I think there are many variables. As a result of doing the farmer's market, I have found that what most want from me at the moment are stories. There seems to be some greater desire to understand what's happening and in my community that is better received through word and sound. Things connected to reality, and practicality, what is useful...my best sellers at market are my buttons, who knew? I made them for my knitting projects and brought some. However there is no lack of appreciation for my paintings, just those people are more vulnerable financially now.
There seems to be some greater desire to understand what's happening and in my community that is better received through word and sound.
Very very very interesting. Very.
I think you hit it. The desire to end some of the confusion and find good interpretations of the story. I so agree with you about stories and sound. The silence of the internet is getting deafening and I've also found people responding like crazy to reality. And smell. And hopefully they want to end some of the sensory abuse. They seem to understand that the media are not getting the message through. They're listening more intently.
Thank you for this. I'm getting some sonar right now.
So darned good. The song and talk are exactly what they need. To feel part of it. Engaged. This is going to open up a new dimension for me. The timing is perfect.
Yes, you are perfectly centered, ready for the time.
My world has been mostly silence, listening and painting so I am still making sense of this, stepping into it slowly letting others guide my steps. With each turn of the wheel our position shifts slightly, it's the same story just a different wrapper.
Hmm that reminds me of the annual re-birthing headache you get. We are all being reborn constantly but we give so little attention to this until a really dramatic new life insists on emerging. Maybe this is what Kad was talking about?
BTW for Kadimiros, something which we touched on in the past... blue light has become very much a presence in both my life and my son's. It is as if a membrane which separates cosmic planes of consciousness is very permeable now. More and more the connection/merging between planes seems to be an exchange that is necessary for both sides. Just wondering.
True. True as can be. Same story. I was just thinking about that. How unchanged we really are. Our traits are like rubber bands constantly going back to their original shapes.
Every birthday is dramatic for me but I haven't noticed any unusually dramatic new selves emerging after the headache clears.
I just attribute it to Athene coming out of Zeus's head and I'm playing both parts.
I think it only looks dramatic to others.
"That gives me ideas in terms of my show. I battle between the avant garde and traditional, such as old standards, so going with subdued and comfortable might work. Embracing the new is part of it, but remembering the old is indicated by Capricorn and the memories of a culture are essential."
You do get to play both parts. And with costumes!
Is it too early to speak of the new show? I'm interested and curious.
I've decided upon hats. Maybe they're my crown, but whatever they symbolize, people are stopping in their tracks and throwing their arms around me when I wear them. It pushes the hat all over the place so I'm thinking of removal when a hug is aroused.
I've always done well with hats, a trademark of Aries. I have so much going on with Aries and my Mars now, and the cocky confident and warm intimate parts of my nature combine well.
When I feel just right, they call to me in the streets. "Love your hat!" an adorable guy exclaimed to me last night on the sidewalk.
"Thank you," I replied in a extra sweet tone that surprised me.
So hats it is. I also battle with my cuteness, one of my major trademarks. I keep thinking I want to be more regal or statuesque, but I'm uncontrollably adorable, so I guess that's it. That leads me to think I should include comedy in my show, which I always planned on doing. I almost gag sometimes with the cute, but what can I do?
I am totally unsure at this point since I have to get out there and experiment. They will guide me. They will create my stage persona. I'm anxious to play with them. I have to stop suffering, though, pronto.
I met a piano player last night who knows the ropes and she said, "Oh I love it. I make a little money and have a lot of fun." The gods sent her to me last night.
So basically I'd like to ease off the tortured artist syndrome and cultivate the easy going party loving side of myself with truth woven in as always without hurting too much.
I also have been trying to decide about the heavy emotional tunes which I do well but they don't wear well. They wander too far into sentimentality and drawing people into shared hurt and I think the jazzrap hip approach will do better. Other people can be in charge of the crying.
It's always a struggle. How much entertainment, how much art, and how they can be combined to perfection.
I'm just beginning.
Another interesting development is an increase in femininity in my presentation.
Last night I even wore a skirt with a black broad brimmed hat and it worked. I have beautiful feet so gorgeous low heeled shoes work well.
I like going in drag sometimes but being an elegant lady is a good one, too, for these Capricorn years. And -- ahem, cough, cough! -- these senior years.
Perhaps some gowns in the future with rhinestones and sequins.
A pleasure this has been, Sticky One.
So basically I'd like to ease off the tortured artist syndrome and cultivate the easy going party loving side of myself with truth woven in as always without hurting too much.
Yep, Work the jupiter in Aries bebe, sounds right.
Also love the feminine touches you are thinking about. One of my favorite all time actresses for sheer presence was Audrey Hepburn, she combines all the traits you speak of; elegance, adorable, feminine, and I bet she had beautiful feet. As we age we are allowed greater freedom, or maybe it's just me allowing my self greater freedom.
Sorrowful, blues, times and places, for that, now in your neighborhood, I bet comfortable, melodic not too overwhelming, as you say we are all recovering from sensory overloads. I'm sure you can weave this balance you speak of into and out of your presentation, enough "sorrowful" to be authentic and enough sass to remind everyone it's time to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps.
And always a touch of humor, shimmy shimmy kokobop. you know...
A pleasure this has been, Sticky One.
The pleasure has been all mine, I'm glad I've found you home.
Ha ha ha!! You remember as always! The shimmy shimmy. And Love Potion #9.
I'm sure you can weave this balance you speak of into and out of your presentation, enough "sorrowful" to be authentic and enough sass to remind everyone it's time to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps.
Very very well put.
Yes, freedom comes with age. Responsibilities diminish. Our prsonalities get etched on our faces so hiding becomes useless.
I have a fascinating story to tell you when we get together again. Really something.
Well, the 4th celebration has been a tradition with us although I think we missed last year. We celebrate in a funny way.
Ah. Yes. There's mushroom for thought here.
Just swung by, briefly, to wish you all a happy 4th! Enjoy!
And wishing you the same kadimiros. Hope you are enjoying the day with your nephew, he's the perfect age for a watermelon seed spitting contest, one of our 4th of July traditions.
My fourth was not particularly happy. Nor was it sad. It was neither here nor there, pretty good positioning I'd say.
Oh, then, I'm glad it was "good" in some sense for you, then. Unless you prefer otherwise, heh, of course.
jm wrote, "People are going back to basics -- tiny businesses, highly creative, and staffed by themselves. Some are thriving amidst the failures."
New ventures and enterprise. That means much of the old games are played out, eh? No sense complaining, or only complaining when there's real work to be done.
"I just attribute it to Athene coming out of Zeus's head and I'm playing both parts."
Hmm, what Zeus was thinking, was not recorded! Although, Athena is a fair image to keep in mind for Saturn in Libra.
tseka wrote, "It is as if a membrane which separates cosmic planes of consciousness is very permeable now. More and more the connection/merging between planes seems to be an exchange that is necessary for both sides."
That's beautifully put. Greater clarity and lucidity of consciousness may result. Like doubled images realigning.
jm wrote, "So basically I'd like to ease off the tortured artist syndrome and cultivate the easy going party loving side of myself with truth woven in as always without hurting too much."
Hmm, I've been tortured, and I've been called an artist, but was I ever a tortured artist? Not sure about that. I can picture struggling alone, alone and in the crowd, struggles with aloneness even, a dark alchemical night, crucible, release by inspiration sought when the balance is ready, and opposing forces syncopate as if by accident from discord, worlds to explore beyond Saturn's gate.
The inspired one soars, and the crowd rises with her, for they have a shared spirit.
The drag artist, like the heyoka, moves through reversal, makes space by asking difficult questions, saying what others fear to say, showing how to look at things differently. More than merely thinking outside the box, they remind us to dare to live.
Hmm, Athena with her odd birth is a kind of transgendered persona in some respects. The battle drag is intriguing. With Hestia and Artemis, she is one of several divinities believed to be immune to Cupid's arrows.
"BTW for Kadimiros, something which we touched on in the past... blue light has become very much a presence in both my life and my son's."
Well, dang, I left the VCR on this weekend by accident. The tape had stopped, so it was a blue light emitting screen for hours and hours. Funny coincidence!
Glad to hear things are well with you and yours. :-)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5....Interesting that the blue color range seems to take us to the edge and a bit beyond the realm of the five senses.
Speaking of the 4th, I read this today about the results of a nationwide survey:
This Independence Day, Americans overwhelmingly agree with the core ideals instilled in the founding document of the United States.
...In his new book, Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, noted that “Americans don’t want to be governed from the left, the right or the center. They want to govern themselves.” He adds that “Most of us have come to believe that the political system is broken, that most politicians are corrupt, and that neither major political party has the answers. Some of us are ready to give up and some of us are ready to scream a little louder. But all of us believe we can do better.”
HEY!!! Can't a person have a GOOD moment of nonhappiness around here???
I prefer bad! Terrible! awful! Horrid!
Heck. OK. Lock me up.
Athena is a fair image to keep in mind for Saturn in Libra.
Excellent point.
My Mars in Libra resonates here. Tseka and Joe are in the same boat.
I can picture struggling alone, alone and in the crowd
Yes. I'm beginning to comprehend the fullness of this reality. And appreciate it.
opposing forces syncopate as if by accident from discord, worlds to explore beyond Saturn's gate.
Yes yes yes. Beautifully stated. I love the accident idea which is a great thing to keep in consciousness so as to allow the release of Saturn's control. Uranus opposes my Mars as Saturn conjoins. Perfect. Let it blow in its container. Capture the force of discord. Delicious thought. It's tricky.
The drag artist, like the heyoka, moves through reversal, makes space by asking difficult questions, saying what others fear to say, showing how to look at things differently. More than merely thinking outside the box, they remind us to dare to live.
Whoo! I'd like to be part of that. No doubt whatsoever.
Your words are accurate. Uranus does deal with opposites, reversals. Absolutely. I experienced one last weekend, one of many to come.
Hmm, Athena with her odd birth is a kind of transgendered persona in some respects. The battle drag is intriguing. With Hestia and Artemis, she is one of several divinities believed to be immune to Cupid's arrows.
Omg.
I am stunned. Immune. I wonder what exactly that means. I want it. The last year has molded me so. I will think about this and return to the revelation. Her absence of childhood also figures in. I understand she was highly admired by her mighty father.
Wonderful comment Kadimiros. Wonderful. It's a pleasure to receive your enlightening perceptions again. :-)
The transgender factor is coming in with Saturn in Libra opposite Uranus. The marriage in Iceland is fascinating.
My god. Cupid's piercing arrow. Is that why I didn't fall for that hornet that stung me last Saturday?
Sorry, we intend to keep you out where we can adore you.
“Americans don’t want to be governed from the left, the right or the center. They want to govern themselves.”
Been saying that for ages and I'm proud of my countryfellows for coming around and being aware. That was a great quote. Good for us.
That's also why the small government people and survivalists are back. Even though they are often illogical and possibly not of sound mind, they indicate the direction society is going. Self, self, self. Governance, that is. The broken government is exactly what the doctor prescribed.
I'm enthused about the trend and feel like I finally will meet my audience since my solo-ness and my originality are what define me. They have been hard to sell but I think it will be easier as people long to go beyond their own confines and recognize that in me.
People are out of work wanting to do what they always thought about but couldn't quite accomplish. Now they will. Something I've always done, so I can show them a few little techniques if they're serious about it.
There is a very interesting combination of dynamics going on out there. I feel it. A different squirm. This report explains it well. I think that's why they are approaching me so much more. The free thinker and doer walks among them!
Hey ho!!!
Sorry, we intend to keep you out where we can adore you.
Heavens! A big (no huge) kiss and full hug for you my friend. Now don't get that cupid thing aroused! I'm not allowed!
The heyoka is one of my favorites, the most sacred, allowed all tools to carry mankind forward, far more sacred than a mere shaman.
I was contemplating the similarity between precession and heyoka just a few days ago. We are always walking forward retracing our steps or backwards into our future.
Very very true. Precession. The big one. The overall. This is why I'm such a fan of nonprediction, and even forward motion, or the labeling of it as such.
We seem to go forward as we age following the predictable path, but who knows that we're not going back somewhere and the undoing of age is happening concurrently in some dimension?
I think the physicist's view of parallel universes points to this knowledge of nonlinear life.
Back to the future? Is this why we keep coming back to previous endeavors as if we belong to these past situations?
I've always been uncomfortable with the go go go of American society. Maybe they'll stay stay stay for a second and absorb the present before going back to the future in these psychotropic days.
Yep the zero point theory.
As i age I connect more and more with my pre 7 self. That more free child is alert again. What a nice surprise.
My father just turned a spunky 88 - a nice role model.
We're back at zero? My fave!
Happy birthday Daddy. What a great number.
Thank you, tseka.
Hmm...I may be on a different track and preoccupied from recent local events. :-( Apologies for any disconnects and spottiness. I send my affection. :-) May you all touch magic, pass it on.
Well, it appears blogger is working again. My post went through after all despite the error messages.
"I was contemplating the similarity between precession and heyoka just a few days ago. We are always walking forward retracing our steps or backwards into our future."
Oh, what a wonderful image! Thank you for sharing that. :-)
And Uranus is retrograde again now, heading back to zero.
"Whoo! I'd like to be part of that. No doubt whatsoever.
Your words are accurate. Uranus does deal with opposites, reversals. Absolutely. I experienced one last weekend, one of many to come."
You are a natural. Very, very creative.
"I am stunned. Immune. I wonder what exactly that means. I want it. The last year has molded me so. I will think about this and return to the revelation. Her absence of childhood also figures in. I understand she was highly admired by her mighty father."
I wonder, too, what that might mean for myself on several levels. There's certainly a flow state in which I seem happily independent. And love in a broader sense is more than Cupid's persuasions, of course.
The word "vulnerabilities" comes to mind in connection with work. I am being reminded to be careful for in my business there are still those who would take advantage, however clothed in charm or guile. And several of my clients had close encounters of the information security breach kind.
It's easy to feel my mental affinity for battle-ready Athena. Perhaps less obvious to others, I'm also attracted by Artemis.
Hestia is a mystery with unrecognized depths. Some believe her to be older than her fellow divinities; to her is given the first and last sacrifice, and she is the keeper of fire, which is ever reborn. According to the Wikipedia article, "A measure of the goddess's ancient primacy -- 'queenly maid...among all mortal men she is chief of the goddesses', in the words of the Homeric hymn -- is that she was owed the first as well as the last sacrifice at every ceremonial assembly of Hellenes, a pious duty related by the mythographers as the gift of Zeus, as if it had been his to bestow: another mythic inversion if, as is likely, the ritual was too deep-seated and essential for the Olympian reordering to overturn." Unlike most of the others in the Pantheon, she is not really a personality but a more ancient power.
I know I have lifetimes at various levels of consciousness. I have reached an age where suddenly I feel I have outlived a significant number of them, if counting year for year. It is smoother, and it is time to reassemble/connect the cast members in a new way.
At the same time, I am pulled by external parties wanting my time and professional attention. Balancing everyone's needs is becoming a juggling act, and I have had to make some cuts.
For some reason, there is a future connection to groups and to speaking, but I don't know what that actually means yet.
The words "following through" now applies, for the crop has begun to emerge.
"Wonderful comment Kadimiros. Wonderful. It's a pleasure to receive your enlightening perceptions again. :-)
I'm glad they are helpful. I am sorry to be so disconnected from my on-line associations, with the demands on my time. You are, as always, stimulating. :-)
"The transgender factor is coming in with Saturn in Libra opposite Uranus. The marriage in Iceland is fascinating."
"My god. Cupid's piercing arrow. Is that why I didn't fall for that hornet that stung me last Saturday?"
Well. Cupid is quite the mischief. :-)
"The free thinker and doer walks among them!"
Hear, hear! :-)
"The transgender factor is coming in with Saturn in Libra opposite Uranus. The marriage in Iceland is fascinating."
Well, it is all very interesting in implications. This is a good aspect of having a diverse world, because with modern tools of investigation and communications, we can begin to see the results of different paths.
I like science news, and the other week I read of a new report of a decades-long study showing that children raised by gay women are well-adjusted, more competent socially and academically, and have fewer behavioral problems than their 17-year-old peers. It is surmised that the results are because these children were greatly cherished, never accidental. Their parents were of a maturer age than usual, preparing themselves extraordinarily for the parenting role. They've actually raised the bar for the rest of us.
Before the industrial revolution, men were closer to their families. Parenting manuals addressed men directly as a primary audience. Later, with workplaces located away farther from home, men became culturally divorced from their families and from caretaking duties. This appears to be changing in some places in the world, where men are nowadays expected to take significant time off from work for hands-on care of newborn members in their families.
This comment above (12:18) is exactly what I love.
And love in a broader sense is more than Cupid's persuasions, of course.
Of course is right. I "love" tossing around ideas about the broader kind of love. The kind that transcends interpersonal desire and demand. I bet love triggers specific hormonal responses and I wonder if the chemistry varies with the kind. Love doesn't necessarily need an object.
I love cumin as much as I've ever loved a person. And that's a lot on both counts.
And several of my clients had close encounters of the information security breach kind.
The next great issue and I'd like to delve into it. It's timely since Cancer rules privacy. The personal revelation online is being seriously questioned and security measures are taking some new and troublesome turns. Information is not safe now and I don't know if that's good or bad. It goes back to the title of this post and the ability to keep and dispense secrets at will. I'm becoming slightly disenchanted with the blog game. That's "good."
Speaking of the game ... the chunk of missing comments has returned. Blogger decides!
she was owed the first as well as the last sacrifice at every ceremonial assembly of Hellenes, a pious duty related by the mythographers as the gift of Zeus.
Very very very interesting. A psychic connection to something that just occurred in my life. Thank you kindly. Excellent. Well well well. Quite amazing.
it is time to reassemble/connect the cast members in a new way.
It certainly is.
I'll be back to comment on the transgender thing.
More on Hestia though...
Unlike most of the others in the Pantheon, she is not really a personality but a more ancient power.
This figures in too, in terms of the less personal detailed report of self I've been wandering away from as if to take my self expression outside its previous confines and therefore become less attached to outcome. It's less personally targeted.
It's also related to Cupid. When I first started song creation I was in "love" and often wrote about the relationship dynamic. It was quoted in the newspaper in Colo. Springs:
"She says she finds herself constantly jotting down phrases she likes and building songs around them. Most of her songs deal with relationships between men and women. But there is a brashness in her tone that defies a giving-in to miseries so often a part of commercial songs.
Although I also wrote spiritual and philosophical songs, now I feel less of a need to discuss the personal. I've purposely deleted these relationships for awhile perhaps to contact that more nebulous power you describe.
Hmmm. The Cancer miseries of intimate relationship. We shall see. Thanks for transpersonal Hestia.
Are you a good public speaker?
I'm getting excited about this. A new professionalism as I rework my career. I used to fear that personal break but with Capricorn here, I'm feeling different sensations and sensing new lures.
I've had enough closeness to last forever. I carry it with me. I can work it into my songs Hestia fashion with Cupid's arrow well sheathed but still vibrating. My love is taking new forms. Those broader ones, such as beyond others and full circle to myself and my gods, of course. In that case maybe I will release the arrow.
"But there is a brashness in her tone that defies a giving-in to miseries so often a part of commercial songs."
Oh, thank goodness. :-) Those commercial lyrics either make me roll my eyes or laugh.
"Are you a good public speaker?"
Hmm, I am not really a group person, so I am not known for it but I have surprised people pleasantly on occasion when I was up to speak. I can probably find something interesting to say, or an interesting way to put things. A dash of spontaneity and the paranormal helps. There is some extra prosody in my voice, I'm told, but there is plenty of room for improvement overall, in my opinion.
I think of reconfiguring persona, like traces of a past life self peeking out. When it is willing and conditions are favorable, it knows to draw on thoughts and tensions in the air, and tickle them gently to shift the energy. A lot comes from tone, timing, an unexpected word or a funny pause, and the drama of constrasting forces. I will not say that I am prepared or in the mood to do it at any time, but the basic know-how is in there somewhere because it has come out when needed.
Besides vastly improving receptivity, charming my listeners could buy me extra time if I needed to make good on something. And I usually have been able to make good with quick, practiced fingers, determination, and trust in inspiration from the collective higher mind.
One of my aunts, on the other hand, a career computer programmer with Gemini Sun and Virgo rising, complained bitterly to me when she was tasked with a short two-minute speech for her working group. It was suggested that she speak on one of the 7 C's (corporate values of Communication, Commitment, Consistency, Cooperation, Competent, Common Sense, and Courtesy). Alternatively, she could speak on "lessons learned" by telling a story from her professional experience. She deferred the assignment for months until her manager said he could give no more extensions.
I was amazed by how difficult she found it. It really contrasted my mother's side and my father's side of family, and how one side had more skills and range than they knew what to do with, while the other side chose wealth and security over adventure.
Out of my head, I offered several ideas and examples, which she mostly rejected as not suiting her personality. But they did steer her away from her original approach which I would simply describe as epic failure, and helped her grasp the general idea of speaking on a topic. She was finally able to write a dry, workmanlike speech which her manager told her was "well-received". Where I would have reached for something inspirational or funny, her speech was, I noticed, essentially a polite complaint and an exhortation to her colleagues to be more considerate in their work habits. ;-)
And you might think that her topic was "Courtesy" but it was actually "Communication." :-)
Communication. Yes.
"The next great issue and I'd like to delve into it. It's timely since Cancer rules privacy. The personal revelation online is being seriously questioned and security measures are taking some new and troublesome turns. Information is not safe now and I don't know if that's good or bad. It goes back to the title of this post and the ability to keep and dispense secrets at will."
The boundaries between public and private have not only shifted but become permeable.
Reminds me of hearing, on the radio, an anecdote recounted by an immigrant woman. Seated on a crowded public beach with her daughter, she overheard an adjacent gaggle of teen girls loudly discussing their intimacies involving boyfriends. She looked at them with surprise, about to admonish them. Before she could do so, one of the girls, embarrassed by her incredulous expression, angrily told her that this was a "private conversation", implying that she had crossed some boundary of common etiquette.
That surprised her more, for if it were truly a private conversation, why would they air it in public in full hearing of strangers? Such bizarre behavior would never happen in the land of her birth. Private conversations took place in rooms behind walls and doors.
She finished the tale by saying that, just as she was about to comment on the glaring difference between real privacy and pretend privacy, her daughter, wiser than she, grabbed her hand and pulled her to run down to the sea.
That's funny. I can just imagine that teen's indignation.
Studies are showing that the young are less empathetic than they used to be and it's attributed to online socializing. When privacy becomes routinely public then people who are allowed entry into these personal realms become less important. Maybe the honored role of being the recipient of revelation encourages the development of empathy. The beach scene shows the opposite in effect. The castigating of those who are not privy to the "intimacies."
It's interesting to see this loss of membrane, although the cache of private thoughts still remains full, I would think.
I wonder if other cultures are as eager to "share" as we are. The group sharing of pain I always figured was our Cancer stellium, and now I'm thinking that the threat of aloof Capricorn is contributing to the excessive personal exchange as a defense, maybe. Or hopefully, preparation.
I'm going the other way. I'm welcoming the lessening of personal sharing and as I step back, the internet sometimes looks ludicrous with its personal agony all over the place. Maybe it's a needed outlet before serious somethings can be done. Or just a replacement for the lack of sympathy in their own lives that can't be solved.
Not seeing facial expressions and sensing the emotional chemistry in other ways diminishes the experience, which could increase the need. I'm absolutely stunned while reading the same cries from the same people about the same things going on a decade now. Nothing has changed. No wonder they want it so desperately!
I sometimes feel the excessive exchanges can interfere with solutions. And there's the realization that we have to live with hurt. One lost another gained.
The invasion of privacy by authority Cancer-Capricorn) is worrisome but it's just like the kids on the beach. We're stuck out there. Maybe people will reroute as Capricorn goes further in, figuring that it's not business's business what they're doing. They have their own business to attend to. It's not your business! It's like separation of church and state.
Anyway, I do think that privacy is going to become a big issue soon. I've always shared intimacies routinely and easily if people were curious, but I try not to use them as a glue for relationship. Sometimes a personal chat is satisfying, but often after it's over, less so. I find people are caught in dilemmas that are being driven by subconscious factors and have little chance of changing them. Thus the repeats, repeats, repeats with the chosen others as a trash bin. They could have been climbing a mountain together for temporary relief.
So the online family seems stuck to me. Public privacy sounds good up to a point, but the after effects might not be. An online dump hardly fixes it. Not that it needs to be fixed.
I find the political blogs to be a cover for personal hurt. No one could be that upset about a legal procedure, could they? Or hate some misguided politician so viciously?
It matters not, though. People are natural people doing what they do.
The airport body scanners are another item. Maybe one day we'll have eyes that see through things and privacy will be a thing of the past.
Peeping into innards, an age old thrill.
A pertinent subject for me, jm, this privacy vs publicity, considering my "newsy news." It got me to thinking: The very nature of the personal, transformative step I will soon take now requires me to be forthcoming to others in a way I dislike and find discomforting. It will draw attention to something I'd rather not share about myself. Yet I can't NOT share because it will be obvious, will be a new thing to many people, and will hopefully affect my life for the better.
In my still-green understanding of astrology, I suspect there's a cardinal cross at work: Uranus/Aries (even if Uranus is back in Pisces for now) opp Saturn/Libra, the revolutionary innovation coming to a head (hee hee) and needing to be explained, versus wanting to keep the walls up, which is/was my old way of being.
Then the Cancer/Capricorn axis echoes the conflict between keeping secret/being forthcoming. And my NN is in Cap. Seems to fit, anyway.
Joe, you've always been concerned with privacy and rightfully so on this medium.
As far as your personal interactions, I think you're right in that it will affect your life for the better. The whole experience is drawing you out of your retreat. If it's a great success (I don't think they'd choose you if they didn't think it would be), then the changes will be profound even if they take time manifesting.
I admire you. People are talking all this nonsense about change and you mean business. 8th houses will do that.;-)
I think, though, that some will be worthy of your revelations and confidences and some won't and part of the NN in Cap is knowing when to be intimate and when to maintain professional distance, and how to successfully explain yourself to them without getting too invested in their emotional responses. We've talked before about you getting involved in other people's dramas when it doesn't do any good and here, too, you might find that some will be genuinely sympathetic and able to help, and some will just be pretending and have different motives. Sharing hurt is a complicated thing and as a Cancer I know all about it. Others in our society are just coming into some discovery. At the moment I'm not impressed but they'll improve. Maybe this will excuse you from the incredibly horrid political crap that you can't do anything about. No one can.
There's so much going on. The revolutionary aspect is cause for confidence and a strong attitude will help the procedure and healing plus inspire others. The Aries is your independence and courage, and you'll have more of that when it's over.
The conflict in Cancer-Cap could be very instructive for you. It might help you learn who to trust and who not to. The Libra is balance so there could be inner ear issues resolved and the balancing act in your relationships. Again, a lot of information will come about relationships. You're going to need them, but possibly less than you think. Over-emotional indulgence is a problem all the way around these coming years.
One thing I'm seeing is the incredible wave of unhappiness coming to the surface of our society as the drugged state wears off and people are hooking on to anything or anyone to find relief from the pain which is especially raw now. It will be interesting to see how others hook on to you. And how some avoid involvement. People are frantic now and it might increase - grabbing, clinging, clutching, crying, all those good Cancer things.
The NN in Cap speaks of a public engagement when the times comes so you're right about coming out from behind the walls. However, the interaction has less of the Cancerian emotional sentimental heartstring tug than most like. People hook on to others' suffering so they don't feel so bad about feeling bad. That's why this "positive" game is getting more ludicrous by the second.
Thankfully you won't have to pretend that it's all good when you're undertaking this huge struggle. I know how that bothers you, how the superficiality gets your "goat."
In the end, I don't think it matters who you share it with and your anxieties will be there anyway. Most don't care so they won't use the intimate revelations against you. You'll emerge all the wiser no matter what they do.
Remember that the eclipse just ahead is bringing out the insecure Cancer behavior to the max. It will improve a little after awhile, especially as they all get used to the ongoing state of insecurity. Social Insecurity. Ha ha!!
You've got something real to deal with. Monumental in this overall age of boredom. Even the destruction of the earth isn't enough.
I think you know all too well that people don't care all that much even if they say otherwise. It just makes those who are genuine stick out that much more. It makes them easy to value. I saw that in your first fateful comment and look what happened!
I was right.
I might mention your Saturn in the 1st since you know I adhere to the view that our Saturns are of utmost importance and they allow for big improvement due to our efforts.
The Aries brings you home to your Saturn which is not only breaking past the wall, but also learning about your individual power in a very direct, often physical way. This will give you the perfect opportunity to test that and also understand how alone we really are. We have to basically do it ourselves if we want to untap our full potential and strength. Saturn in the first provides that theoretically. I've seen many people with these obstacles and 1st house Saturns. Something others don't fully understand. They know their own Saturns. :o)
Your renewal, once hearing is established, could be wild in how it propels you forth from the barricade bringing newness and curiosity (Gemini) and an exponential push to communicate.
It sounds(:O) like a complicated tough road but the breakthrough could be invigorating beyond what you've experienced before. Triumph over obstacles ... Aries.
That, I think, is the fundamental behind the whole thing and, of course, the fullness of communication on the other side.
It's important for everyone to realize the individual push of Aries and those who run from it will continue to cling to the group (Cancer tribe) excessively while others are off and running into new experience. This experience for you definitely is in the wilderness category.
"When privacy becomes routinely public then people who are allowed entry into these personal realms become less important. Maybe the honored role of being the recipient of revelation encourages the development of empathy."
Interesting....And could be an inner deficiency of sacred space, because there isn't any interior cultivated as such. It all gets flattened out.
Mental image: The rain suddenly pelts down so heavily that the world disappears, and none can see the star-crossed lovers' secret kiss under an umbrella, on the bleachers by an empty baseball field.
So it's not about rigid, hard borders. Maybe it's more like having real skin to touch, or a curtain of rain to draw close one's attention.
"Not seeing facial expressions and sensing the emotional chemistry in other ways diminishes the experience, which could increase the need. I'm absolutely stunned while reading the same cries from the same people about the same things going on a decade now. Nothing has changed. No wonder they want it so desperately!"
That's an excellent point. The on-line networking can't substitute for the full human and humanizing experience. It could well lead to malnourishment.
I know a voluble guy who chats on phone and IM a lot more than I do. He spent 15 years in a cutthroat corporate culture where he worked happily alone in a room with the door shut. His manager used to laugh when he came out to lunch because except for that it was impossible to tell if he'd been in that day. At meetings, he could range from passive-aggressive to combative with VIPs. He was a big, tall, rough-edged sporty guy, extremely high I.Q., yet anxiously immersed in family drama which he is quick to relate to newcomers. He ceaselessly ruminates, and shops for equipment from one Christmas to the next without buying anything. After a while, people feel like edging away!
In person one time, he said to me, "You have an interesting demeanor, that you share with your sister." "Really?" I said surprised. "What do you mean?" "You're hard to read...and it's annoying! I can usually read people very quickly," he claimed. And I couldn't get him to explain any better than that. So then I told one of my clients about this, a highly verbal woman with Mercury highly prominent in her nativity, and she declared that I was very clear.
"I sometimes feel the excessive exchanges can interfere with solutions."
Yeah. People have to take steps, however small, to change scope of view, and see what new directions might become visible.
"I find people are caught in dilemmas that are being driven by subconscious factors and have little chance of changing them. Thus the repeats, repeats, repeats with the chosen others as a trash bin. They could have been climbing a mountain together for temporary relief."
That might actually work better! ;-) Why, they could meet a bear or something! A lion or a tiger, oh my. Instead of just talking about them.
I remember dreaming of suddenly meeting a wild tiger on the sidewalk. A bit wary, I reached out my hand in greeting. She held my fingers with her mouth briefly. Then, releasing my hand intact, she continued her stroll, and I noticed then her litter of cubs trailing behind her. We proceeded up the tree-lined street together, the tiger, her cubs and I, and I was interested to see where they would go. Does curiosity kill the cat or will fortune favor the bold? The encounter seemed suggestive of the latter.
As a youth, I found that it was relatively easy to dive into the subconsciousness, and great adventure at times. Can't hold a candle to last year's revelations of Jung's Red Book, but I had a bit of fun and got to learn some things that would always stand me in good stead.
Many people don't have the cultural support to go on their own individual "vision quests" or some other way to develop insight, to discover that they have with them their own source of light.
They should just do it, I think. It takes commitment, and a willingness to let go of whatever doesn't work. But why not be eager, armed with faith in one's connectedness and creative energies -- if one truly believes in the efficacy of that -- instead of cursing the darkness? One can always find another group, if the group thing is desired.
"I find the political blogs to be a cover for personal hurt."
I think that's often true. The energy doesn't go anywhere. It's sort of stuck in a middling place. It reinforces feelings of helplessness and victim consciousness.
I feel that the energy of a ruminating group mind hasn't risen to the level of creative expression -- with openness to luck, happenstance, and serendipity -- that would allow for real problem-solving. The programming is predetermined and self-reinforcing.
The thing to do is to look at things from different angles, and to try things out. It's wired into our mind-body systems to do that to solve problems.
"It matters not, though. People are natural people doing what they do."
Yeah, I imagine that they'll learn from their experience even if it takes them several lifetimes. And, well, others can learn what not to do from observing them, heh.
"Peeping into innards, an age old thrill."
Ha ha ha! :-)
"When privacy becomes routinely public then people who are allowed entry into these personal realms become less important. Maybe the honored role of being the recipient of revelation encourages the development of empathy."
I thought about this a lot and I also find your response interesting. The flattening of sacred space is a great way of saying it.
Interesting....And could be an inner deficiency of sacred space, because there isn't any interior cultivated as such. It all gets flattened out.
This feels important to me. I've always tread carefully around the notion of group sharing and collective suffering. Some is supposed to be private maybe to maintain the sacred space you talk about. Besides the fact that everyone experiences common events uniquely. Some are more bothered than others and this bothers the bothered even more! The unbothered can't be bothered.
The curtain of rain is a good one, too, as if sadness encourages retreat into the sacred space. The real inner sanctum. When and with whom we share these places change all the time, I believe.
That's an excellent point. The on-line networking can't substitute for the full human and humanizing experience. It could well lead to malnourishment.
Beautifully phrased. I think you've touched on something. The hunger that drives the crowd and the reluctance to satisfy it. The Internet - the Ronald McDonald of communication. Fast and dirt cheap. Kentucky Fried adverbs.
That's interesting about the guy who can't read you and the woman who can. It's probably related to his desires and as you said, he seeks emotional upsets, not your area of expertise I gather. The woman probably likes a drier connection so feels less intimidated by your reserve. Or maybe she's just smarter about human relationship. I like that very much about you.
It's so terribly fascinating all the nuances of human interaction. I used to be overwhelmed by how much information I receive, but as I've reduced the amount of contact, I enjoy the connections more. I don't want to shut out the input even if I often get sensory overload. I can take a nap.
Yeah. People have to take steps, however small, to change scope of view, and see what new directions might become visible.
I have a habit of not talking my problems through with others and I came to think it was my way of giving them my full undistracted attention making solutions easier to come by. One knows best but most don't quite have the confidence to act from that premise.
I became so successful at not "sharing" that I found myself sharing other more common experiences. I always see their eyes quickly dart away when I talk about myself so I just quit. I'm glad they're not interested. They love my perceptions so they are riveted when they're discussing their own problems, so I'll leave it at that. I'm known as a good listener and I wanted to relinquish that role, but better that than whining about myself. I'm not inclined to listen to myself do that. Why would anyone else?
Just the other day I was trying to explain to a girl friend about my patio problems and it didn't quite take off so I'll continue with my well developed previous technique. I refuse to listen to anymore tales about her crowded and rapidly changing love life though! Info about the astrological sign of the latest one isn't doing any good. I'm glad I'm no longer an astrologer.:o)
Often the physical activity does work. One can still run through the choices while engaged in a rhythmical mountain climb avoiding bears.
I'm spoiled. All my Aquarian best friends have been not inclined to gossip and ruminate. One of my favorites was an outdoorsman and another was a musician. No time for talking about my problems which curiously disappeared when I was with them. I'm a great believer in shared activities around like interests. I'm thinking of joining the folk dance group in the park on Thursdays.
The municipal band was playing there last evening and as the sun set, a rich double rainbow formed naturally pulling eyes upward. As a group. The bandmaster reminded the crowd to enjoy the beautiful sunset while they finished playing.
"Don't forget the visuals," he wisely suggested.
That struck me as funny. I'm wondering if the folk dancers are equally amusing. I'll find out.
Does curiosity kill the cat or will fortune favor the bold? The encounter seemed suggestive of the latter.
Age old philosophical question. In your scenario, curiosity killed no one, and as far as fortune goes, fortune seems fickle. I can't say what it favors.
Many people don't have the cultural support to go on their own individual "vision quests" or some other way to develop insight, to discover that they have with them their own source of light.
Another psychic ding related to a dream I had last night. Thank you for the explanation. You're good.
a willingness to let go of whatever doesn't work.
That's the good one. Any endeavor to be successful requires this and I think good management is especially skilled at recognition and rejection of the notworks. I often see trying too hard as an ongoing problem.
One can always find another group, if the group thing is desired.
Beyond any "dark" shadow of a doubt. They're under every rock. Belonging is simple.
I feel that the energy of a ruminating group mind hasn't risen to the level of creative expression -- with openness to luck, happenstance, and serendipity -- that would allow for real problem-solving. The programming is predetermined and self-reinforcing.
Yes. Predetermined and self-reinforcing. Stuck.
And, well, others can learn what not to do from observing them, heh.
Absolutely. Valuable information sometimes, too.
Speaking of groupthink, I've not made firm conclusions about Jung and his frightening subconscious. There were lots of mind games and unpleasant relationships, to say the least, in Europe with his hell bent psychoanalyzing crowd. According to a doc I saw on him, he had some writings about a dark future for the world which no one has been allowed to see.
He wrote them at the end of his life when he was alone and depressed. Deflated probably after all that infatuation. A lot went wrong with the crowd he gathered around him and I got the impression that his ego interfered with his work in understanding the subconscious, as well as the groupie aspect of the thing. Lots of hanky panky occurred. I'm reluctant to go into his head any further, so I think our travels within our own are the best.
Even if we don't "consciously" go there, it comes to us as a delivery service, I think. We do all right. Group or no. Afraid or not.
I saw that in your first fateful comment and look what happened!
I can't imagine what that comment was. :^) It must have been profound.
Thanks for the responses. I have saved them in my journal for review later after it's said and done.
That comment was about the "in-between" which is where you are now.
It's an amazing step, Joe. Just the fact that you're a candidate is a great sign. I had a feeling long ago when you first mentioned the idea that it was going to happen. From what I understand, major strides in the technology have been made lately. So your timing is perfect.
Seriously, I've learned a lot through all of this. Your appearance was so dignified within the clamour, yet you were pounced upon like an invading organism. I was the organism!
We continue on our paths. It's truly fascinating how subjective reality is. I've come to disassociate from what almost anyone says realizing they are talking about themselves, just changing the names and places. I'm learning to let life do what it does while I sort of keep tabs and go on about my own business and pleasure.
Btw, I'm an expert at communication person to person and probably the biggest asset is my acute hearing. I pick up countless clues in the sounds of their voices. The human voice is rich.
"The woman probably likes a drier connection so feels less intimidated by your reserve. Or maybe she's just smarter about human relationship. I like that very much about you."
Aha, thank you. Mysterious me! I notice that the guy tries to deduce other people's motives and hidden agendas, and to predict behavior, whereas the professional businesswoman has been satisfied to take people more at face value (as long as they seem to confirm her views and expectations).
My feeling is that he does not pick up on warning signs that would have steered him away from problematic relationships, and he overcompensates in his rational strengths which are unsuited to the task.
There also seems to be an assumption that other people are, or should be, predictable. I can caricature some of his complaints as, "My clients need to decide on solid directions for their companies. I need everybody [clients, relatives] to have reliable schedules for the next six months, so that I can decide how to organize my life. It simply makes sense."
"I refuse to listen to any more tales about her crowded and rapidly changing love life though! Info about the astrological sign of the latest one isn't doing any good. I'm glad I'm no longer an astrologer.:o)"
Well, isn't that typical: people who won't listen to good advice. Heh.
"Age old philosophical question. In your scenario, curiosity killed no one, and as far as fortune goes, fortune seems fickle. I can't say what it favors."
Maybe it's one of those Libran conundrums. I suppose it favored the production of cubs, in the dream.
"I'm spoiled. All my Aquarian best friends have been not inclined to gossip and ruminate. One of my favorites was an outdoorsman and another was a musician. No time for talking about my problems which curiously disappeared when I was with them."
You've good friendships there, definitely. It's as if these guys can simply breathe in and out to make for space and perspective.
"I got the impression that his ego interfered with his work in understanding the subconscious, as well as the groupie aspect of the thing. Lots of hanky panky occurred. I'm reluctant to go into his head any further, so I think our travels within our own are the best."
I'd agree with that. I'm disinterested, actually, in the specifics of the Jungian psychology and the Jungian group consciousness. I'd rather just look at the body of work as if he were yet another artist represented in a museum, quite a few of whom had their own biases and quirks, I'm sure. There's that funny saying that if one sees a Freudian doctor, then one dreams Freudian dreams, and if one sees a Jungian, then one dreams Jungian. The creative process and its effects interest me.
"The municipal band was playing there last evening and as the sun set, a rich double rainbow formed naturally pulling eyes upward. As a group. The bandmaster reminded the crowd to enjoy the beautiful sunset while they finished playing. 'Don't forget the visuals,' he wisely suggested.
That struck me as funny. I'm wondering if the folk dancers are equally amusing. I'll find out."
A YouTube video made headlines this week, wherein a guy waxed ecstastic over a double rainbow. "What does this mean?" He yelled at one point. Another thing that struck my funny bone are the headlines about a newfound black hole in outer space seen blowing a massive gas bubble over 1,000 light-years wide. Nice to know those space telescopes are helping to properly edify the public!
I notice that the guy tries to deduce other people's motives and hidden agendas, and to predict behavior, whereas the professional businesswoman has been satisfied to take people more at face value
I like her more and more.
My feeling is that he does not pick up on warning signs that would have steered him away from problematic relationships
I would guess that he doesn't want to pick up the warning signs. He seems to enjoy the problematic.
There also seems to be an assumption that other people are, or should be, predictable.
That's exactly what I meant above when I said we're projecting our own desires so often. I recall becoming acutely conscious of the phrase, "she needs to" or "they should," and all of that reshaping of everyone else that's continually attempted. I blast everyone but never expect them to be or do differently. I certainly wouldn't want them to change according to my dictates. I mean, after all. I could be wrong.
In my own experience I've found that if I genuinely like or love people I don't do that no matter how badly they behave at times. But if I have some sort of basic resentment I pick and chip away like a normal person.
If I care for a person then changing them would probably ruin it, I've always thought.
I need everybody [clients, relatives] to have reliable schedules for the next six months, so that I can decide how to organize my life.
Well he's not self directed I guess.:o) Maybe if you decide what you're doing he'll be all right!
It's as if these guys can simply breathe in and out to make for space and perspective.
Exactly what I want in the next few Libran years.
I'm disinterested, actually, in the specifics of the Jungian psychology and the Jungian group consciousness. I'd rather just look at the body of work as if he were yet another artist represented in a museum
Well put. The group Jungian thing can get oppressive. You're right...
There's that funny saying that if one sees a Freudian doctor, then one dreams Freudian dreams, and if one sees a Jungian, then one dreams Jungian.
They parrot mythical references and here again, the ego gets tripped up in dream and vision competitiveness. Spiritual oneupsmanship. The squashing of individuality is almost a given in exchange for group belonging. I backed away from joining up when it came to such tender places as my subconscious desires and dreams. I think trying to interpret it all can detract from experiencing it. I've seen that interpretations might be correct but they don't change things that much since we still respond and react habitually even if we do intellectually grasp why. I don't know exactly where the mechanism for change is, but I assume it's not in Freud's lingering head.
Then again, I think we're pressured not to be our authentic selves unless society approves. We're quickly told to rectify unwanted behaviors whereas I think many of them serve valuable purposes. The bad guys are supposed to be bad. Our bad traits are often OK if we judge fairly.
A YouTube video made headlines this week, wherein a guy waxed ecstastic over a double rainbow. "What does this mean?" He yelled at one point.
Yep. The old meaning of everything. I've been backing off of that lately.
It's really funny. People see these rainbows and hope hope hope that it's a sign of something great coming. It could be water in the air actually. It could be the greatness of the moment and the future is unrelated. They are stunning, though. They stop people in their tracks which is quite an accomplishment.
The bandleader in the park was thrilled since getting a gig right is tricky. His job got a heckuva lot easier. Slightly less routine.
People are looking hard for signs but we get them anyway without all the fuss and worry. I've always believed we are perfectly guided and still do.
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