Saturday, January 17, 2009

Fine Dining

Do you think they're invited to the inaugural luncheon?
Veal is being served.

59 Comments:

Blogger Tseka said...

What are you kidding me Veal is being served?

17/1/09 8:38 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I was thinking about Andrew Wyeth. Artists, critics dissed him. But he was hugely popular and made millions, and millions.

I actually like his work. Saw it in person many years ago and was astounded by how abstract the paintings are up close.

How did the middlemen, the critics get so darn much power?

17/1/09 8:42 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

In an oddball way (maybe Pluto's plot)I believe the current economic state will bring power back into the hands of people. As people begin to repair what is broken, mend their clothes, cut their own hair, grow food, search for solutions without money they will look first at what they can do themselves. Likely they will be surprised at what they are capable of doing. Some of us have never strayed too far from the depression era mentality. It runs deep in my family.

Veal.
Man. The cash flowing in DC is pretty unbelievable. Myrtle Rae must be having a melt down, bless her heart.

17/1/09 8:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes. Veal. I'm sick unto my spleen

I love Andrew Wyeth!

OH MY GOD! The critics! All the wrong people in the world have the power. Critics are stupid.

I never saw the paintings close enough to get the abstraction but the beauty and soul were impossible to miss. He was a master of using magnificent skill without ruining feeling. I really love his work.

All the losers who keep dissing are fools who wish they could do it themselves. The real artists don't give a flying fig. They just keep working. My iconoclasm has returned and I'm relieved.

17/1/09 8:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I just commented on the cash flow at RU. This event is one of the most decadent and disgusting I've ever seen. In a recession? I've had it.

I also was thinking about the power back to the people. I was in a consignment furniture store recently and it was bustling. People are re-cycling and loving it. Businesses like that will thrive and there will be good deals for all.

17/1/09 8:59 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Likely they will be surprised at what they are capable of doing. Some of us have never strayed too far from the depression era mentality. It runs deep in my family.

The people are so good at this and I love them for it. Many thrifty Europeans settled here and the memory remains. The depression also is in the collective consciousness rather close to the surface. Those of us who have always lived like this are going to be possibly even more comfortable as others start sharing the deeper values with us.

My father comes from poverty and he never forgot. I always felt it.

17/1/09 9:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I see no change whatsoever coming to DC and soon the people might get it and get on with it. I'd rather ignore them and start living. If this moment isn't a clear clue, then they'll never get it. They can't acknowlege it yet, but they will. They'll have to.

17/1/09 9:06 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Ja, Wyeth talked about his work being abstract and i didn't get it until i saw it. Up close it falls apart and you can see HIM there, imperfections, razor blade scrapings, cat paw prints.

For me It's the white spaces, he left a lot of the story hidden. Yep, poetry.

17/1/09 9:07 PM  
Blogger jm said...

You're absolutely right about the white space. That's it. That's exactly why I love his work. The breath. There's also an honesty to it. I so miss that part of life in general.

17/1/09 9:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think all painting might be abstract in some way, even if the end product is realistic.The path to get there is fragmented and full of imagination.

17/1/09 9:11 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Yes, that is my take too. Obama is another Heyoka. Narscissus' mirror.

It's interesting how out in the open everything has become. Some of this may be because of the internet.

This was the reason i could not, cannot get involved any longer in the big political game. I just plug away at what solutions i can participate in.

17/1/09 9:13 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Up close it falls apart and you can see HIM there.

That's exactly how I read a chart. I know of no other who does that like I do. Hard to communicate this knowledge.

17/1/09 9:13 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

White space, breath these are perfect words.
Your music

Winnowing has become very important to me in my work. Simple and elegant point to the best solution in physics, i apply it all around.

17/1/09 9:15 PM  
Blogger jm said...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG IN HEAVEN!!

Narcissus. Thank you so much Sweet Sticky 1.

I really really see it right now and it is not pretty. It blew up like blowfish on the boat's deck.

The political game is small. We must find our own solutions.

I think the new Heyoka is headed for a big fall which is a perfect time for a rise from within.

Oh you are wise.

17/1/09 9:17 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Yes, I was at an opening the other day and i ran into a social friend who it turns out has a birthday on 23 December. When I originally met her she was with a Vedic Astrologer, so i mentioned her sun|Pluto, noting i had just passed through that gate. As we chatted, i told her that only one person (you) had what i felt was the sensitivity to the chart/person as a whole. And i found myself floundering trying to explain.

17/1/09 9:21 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Ooooh, winnowing. Beautiful concept, beautiful action. That's what I want in my life.

The narcissim is so interesting and explains a lot suddenly. I think that's might be why I got attached. So I could see how NOT to do it. The truth is so blatant right now. Will the crowd continue so blindly? Does it matter?

17/1/09 9:21 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

One of the things that currently captures my interest is this long wavering of NN over same degree at such a big moment in our history.

I wonder how this will play out. Also Obama and Hillary both have NN direct natally. (so does Bill)

17/1/09 9:23 PM  
Blogger jm said...

And i found myself floundering trying to explain.

Heheh. That's probably when we're onto something. This is a great compliment coming from you. I am touched and honored.

I feel I have nothing in common with the others but in the end that's my greatest comfort.

17/1/09 9:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes, the long waver is probably significent. I don't think Obama and Hillary matter at all. The great moment is something bigger. As a matter of fact, I think maybe Obama's job is done and he might not amount to much. The Aquarian long waver could mean that the whole collective is functiong as a unit a bit more consciously and that would mean a dimishing of the players. The SN in Leo.

17/1/09 9:29 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

narcissim is an interesting pathology. It always requires a target.

Having been a target, my sensors have become hair triggers.

One thing is the pain after is hideous. Discovering the lie. It is going to be very, very painful for some.

17/1/09 9:32 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Because of this I think that Obama might be destined to fail. I'm uncertain but it makes sense. He has to fail big before Pluto gets to his Saturn and this would be the perfect opportunity. Then he could get on his right spiritual track.

Then the people would learn the very inmportant lesson of their own power. They are going way overboard worshipping him now which also points to his downfall. It really would be the best thing for everyone. He has to learn humility, which is why I am so impressed with your Heyoka analysis.

And his hypocrisy which is his worst trait.

17/1/09 9:32 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Things may move a bit faster. Shiny things tarnish more quickly it seems these days.

17/1/09 9:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One thing is the pain after is hideous. Discovering the lie. It is going to be very, very painful for some.

Boy howdy, gal, you nailed it! I welcome this experience. I want the lie exposed. It will spill over to other areas. His 12th house Saturn is the perfect sacrificial lamb. I think it's going to be shocking and what we're seeing is the prelude. The false greatness. That's why I thought John mcCain's advertisement was the best of the season. "The One." A moment of truth.

17/1/09 9:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Very very interesting. I think I already did it by following him during the campaign and now seeing the truth. It's given me more confidence, coming back to the self, and this could be the end result overall for the group.

Yes, I think it will be fast. We have too much to do. His self-importance now is the clue. He can't inflate much more without exploding so it will have to end.

17/1/09 9:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The SN in Leo at this sensitive time is the clue. The beginning of the tarnishing of all our heroes including Lincoln, in my book.

17/1/09 9:40 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I agree with your thoughts.

One positive is that people really are sincere in wanting a peaceful and different future. That is good, means there is a willingness to let go of the past.

Now, the hard part is not looking outside for the answer.

Funny you should say about Obama's spiritual track. I had a vision of him a long time ago as a spiritual leader in a golden robe.
He was happy.

Neptune highest in his chart....

17/1/09 9:41 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Yes, Lincoln has to go.

Funny how my perceptions and inquiries have altered this past cycle. My mother and i were talking about the presidents of my lifetime and in our conversation, i came to wonder if maybe only Eisenhower was the closest to honest. What a shock. And yet nothing shocks any more. I am open to truth, regardless of inconvenience.

Perhaps that is Pluto's gift to us.

17/1/09 9:47 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

You realize what a blessing having our Presidents be ordinary would be? No more glorified icons.

Remember how we deified Doctors in the 50-60s? They took a tumble.

I would gladly saw off the legs of a few thrones!

17/1/09 9:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Now, the hard part is not looking outside for the answer.

This is everything.

Yes. Neptune high. Square Joop in his 12th. I see him as a high priest which is why a political failure would be the best thing. There is goodness in him which is why we like him in some way and maybe we can all help one another get to a good plateau. Obama is not afraid of failure. I'm thinking about my part in preparing the crowd for this possibility, as easily as I can.

OMG! OMG! OMG!

I had this exact conversation today about Eisenhower. He's the ONLY one I've ever liked!! OMG!

I, too, have altered.

I am open to truth, regardless of inconvenience.

You and me both, baby. Amazing about Eisenhower.

17/1/09 10:00 PM  
Blogger jm said...

HA HA!!!

I would gladly saw off the legs of a few thrones!

I've got the saw! And a spare so we can work together!

17/1/09 10:01 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Maybe we will come around to what our forebears knew the fundamental thing - not man that defines this country our constitution.

We as a people are sadly lacking in our understanding of civics.

I do not see the clear path but simple and elegant are probably the watchwords.

17/1/09 10:04 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

heheh no kidding - Eisenhower.

17/1/09 10:05 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

oh sweetie stick with me, i got POWER TOOLS! Let's invite Myrtle Rae. It would probably relieve some of her stress. We could let her chisel.

17/1/09 10:07 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Eisenhower was unassuming, natural, humble compared to the big stars, and sensible. He did good and bad like they all do. Somehow we must come to the understanding that it's a division of labor and people should just do their jobs. It could be interesting with the next administration's Leo SN and deep Scorpio moon. It could be that the long wobble will equalize the population to an extent by the time this is done. Neptune is coming to our Aquarian moon soon. This one's greatest achievement could be non-achievement. Then he could renounce the world and become a spiritual master in his 12th.

17/1/09 10:09 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is a fabulous moment for me. I could not have this conversation with anyone else and I was aching to. Thank you my Wise 1.

17/1/09 10:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

We as a people are sadly lacking in our understanding of civics.

Needs correction. I think it could be happening because I decided not to talk politics anymore out there and they just won't stop. Good sign. the kids will pick up on it. The teachers will respond. Needs always dictate.

Myrtle Rae's got laods of power tools and she knows how to use them. She's in!!

17/1/09 10:13 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Sensible and competent.
That was what i was hoping for in a leader. Someone who could tell us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and get on with it.

I've been sick of whining for a long time. And I've been sick of carrying the load for others.

17/1/09 10:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's time to unload the loads. Pluto to our Aries points will help tremendously. We are of little use carrying those loads with a NN 1.

17/1/09 10:19 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

You know JM by most American standards, I grew up very poor. The people around me had even less. But there was this sense of being safe. Our climate was temperate and food was naturally abundant. My ancestors both the Scandinavians and the Algonquin faced great hardship. Even as a kid, I knew we were lucky. We had food and shelter and perhaps more important trust. We never in all the years on the reservation locked our doors. We did that after we moved to a town.

17/1/09 10:20 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Unload the loads. That seems to be it. I was laying in bed this morning and thinking i could give up everything and live with almost nothing if i could have the breath of time to flow into.

Imagine not having to pay rent, or a mortgage all the bills. It seems quite insane on some level. How do we detach? Clear out the money?

17/1/09 10:23 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I grew up the same way. In a little neighborhood outside a small city. My father was a humble man and I followed in his footsteps.

They built a trucking business from chickens and eggs. All of the 8 children worked together in the business. When I was born, my parents lived in a small apartment. When they made more money they spent it on travel. They had good values.

17/1/09 10:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

if i could have the breath of time to flow into.

The ultimate. I cannot live without that.

There are many ways to clear out the money. We have to experiment. I but nothing but bare essentials now.

17/1/09 10:27 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Somehow I think there is a message coming in with this exravagant event in DC and the realities we now face as a country. It will take a minute but getting together outside the system is the only way, I think. Sharing, cooperating, understanding, being honest. All those good things.

17/1/09 10:29 PM  
Blogger jm said...

There's a lot to face. The generations after WWII had everything handed to them and now we are headed for different times. I think the Uranus-Pluto squares are going to be a grand awakening and the fact that it's coming in so many increments is a sign that we'll have the opportunity to adjust and make the most of it. Independence is the key and it's time. We almost have to go back to square one and carve a new path in the wilderness.

17/1/09 10:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I also think in these times the ancestral memories come back to us and the thread that has always linked civilizations will vibrate. We can do better, we are reminded. We owe it to the past and the future.

17/1/09 10:36 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

150,000,000.00. Seems a bit obscene. It think it won't fly for the public. The half mil for a vacation in Hawaii. It all seems over the top. You could be right. It is already over.

What is really crazy is how imaginary money really is at the level we have taken it.

Still the impact is my savings that i so carefully set aside is nearly gone. It is a crazy time. And it could all turn on a dime. Som much of this idea of being bankrupt is sold to us as part of the next scheme. Not sure the way through but local trading has become quite acceptable without anyone saying a word. People just fell into what works.

17/1/09 10:39 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I also think in these times the ancestral memories come back to us and the thread that has always linked civilizations will vibrate. We can do better, we are reminded. We owe it to the past and the future.

I agree, i have been working on a project. I am not sure how it will end up as it has taken on a life of its own. Basically it is taking certain of my paintings and some essays and poetry that trace those very threads. A reminder of what we were given, must remember. If it turns out well, i will try to flog it as a show to some of the small museums. Even though it is a story of my family it is not a story about us but all who made the journey, just one thread.

17/1/09 10:44 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

assuming i can stay with it long enough and don't have to quit to take a job.

17/1/09 10:45 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Really? 150 mil? After all that gibberish about sacrifice? Omg. Truly obscene. Pompous to the max. The people will have to get it. It will continue until they do.

My savings are almost gone too, but I require so little, I can make it.

They are not going to help us. It's one scheme after another and they are not supposed to bail us out. I don't want them to so that I can be free of obligation to them. You are right. Quietly go on underground building our simple lives. When they come crashing down we'll be living well on the bottom.

Pluto just got started and the bottom rungs are the safest. They sense that which is why they are spending uncontrollably now. Meiman-Marcus had a sales drop last year of 27%.

It has to go on with this insanity in order to bring about the restructuring required for survival. the humblest have always been the most protected I believe.

This party is beyond belief. More expensive than Bush's after all that cheap talk. What a scam.

17/1/09 10:52 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm so glad I have no stake in it. I feel more free than I ever have.

17/1/09 10:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The story line thing is a fantastic idea. People love those. You can put them in public places. Corporations are interested too. You can do it.

I can get work anytime. Nothing changes for me. Just set it up and do it. So it will be all right.

No quitting for a job. Forbidden.

17/1/09 10:55 PM  
Blogger jm said...

They really do love those stories mixed with art. They are now so used to mixed media that they will respond. Context is everything and beautiful orchestrations can be built like theatrical productions. Good idea.

17/1/09 10:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes it's over. They are so corrupt at this point that they have nowhere left to go but out. The system will obliterate it in its survival mechanism. The Pluto return is a rebirth of the nation.

17/1/09 11:02 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Well my nightowl friend I'm off to sleep. I do love our chats in the cafe. You are one of my treasures. A copperlined box full to the brim.

g'night

17/1/09 11:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

G'night, my love. This was an important night. Something good is happening.

17/1/09 11:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Btw, I saw a pint of copper paint tonight in the hardware store and my inner light ignited. See-through container.

17/1/09 11:12 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

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18/1/09 4:05 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

copper!

I awakened very early and who was on my mind? Your father. It seems that all the bits you have left around wove themselves into something resting in my sleeping mind. I think I would have loved knowing your father.

Our fathers lived in unique times. They experienced a great deal, many tests very early. My father is wise. And he has been so for as long as I've known him. Poetry is the language of the soul, words that move through the heart. What do we call people who attain this attenuation?

18/1/09 4:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My father! How incredible. How tender. Touches the soul. He came to you. Probably telling me about a friend to trust. Omg.

You would have liked him. He was like the animals you love. We shared a love of them together out in the country. Lots of deer. He was so quiet.

He was so lonely at the end. When I stayed with him I cooked every night and put the labeled dishes in the freezer so he could eat well when I was gone. He finished it all. Then he died.

You won't believe what my father experienced. Way out of the ordinary and I shall tell you when the time is right. You will love the story so much you'll know why he came this morning.

This soothes the soul. Just what I need. My father and my friends.

Attenuation is good description. What do we call them? I called him Dad. But I knew.

18/1/09 7:28 PM  

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