Saturday, September 08, 2007

A Toast

To health
To freedom
And to relaxation.

39 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will take the middle glass then....

Maybe this is in preparation for the 4 month party you mentioned a while back.

Salud!

9/9/07 11:36 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh that party!! Well not as wild as I thought it would be.

Analysa, if you'd like to put your quotes into italics in your comments, just let me know and I'll post the instructions.

Salud to you!

9/9/07 2:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahhhhh, italics, such a headache! You posted the instructions once and I couldn´t figure it out. On a normal document they work fine, but here..., not at all. I even went to see some "experts" and they couldn´t figure it out. I don´t know what I´m not doing or overdoing. Probably something real simple.

So, yes, you can post them again and I will try, but you will have to hold my hand and walk me through it, step by step. Not sure if you are up for that ...?

10/9/07 8:45 AM  
Blogger jm said...

LOL, as in Lots of Luck!

First: <
Then i
then >
Next: your quote
The close <
Next /i
Then >

Right below the comment box is the illustration.

10/9/07 3:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me try

Right below the comment box is the illustration.

What illustration?

10/9/07 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You see, it didn´t work.

"Right below the comment box is the illustration" was the quote I tried to put up in italics, but as you can see, it didn´t work.

And yes, I was at the same time asking, what illustration below the comment box, there is no illustration, just "Choose an identity"

????????

10/9/07 4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can use some HTML tags, such as b, i, a

Did you mean this?




Your HTML cannot be accepted: Tag is not closed: a

Now it won´t let me publish anything

10/9/07 4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I might have it .....

10/9/07 4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me try

To see things in the seed, that is genius. Lao-tzu


That is the quote up there that is supposed to come up in italics ...

Did it work?

10/9/07 4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT DID!!!!!

How dumb of me .....

Let me try again to be sure

We are always in our own company. Nietzsche

I am embarrassed...Ha Ha guess some humility is always good

10/9/07 4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you jm
Now I`ll take an other glass of wine
Good Night

10/9/07 4:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yeeeeaaayyyy analysa!!!!

Huge applause! And salud!

Love the quote. Completely.

We're cookin' now.

10/9/07 4:51 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Ah, the beauty of italics. This is great.

Let's see if Blogger allows me to enter some basic HTML character reference entities.

I type this:

<i>words to be italicized</i>

to get this:

words to be italicized

10/9/07 8:49 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

How did I illustrate the HTML markup tags without causing italics to be rendered? The less-than and greater-than symbols have special meaning in HTML, but sometimes we need to represent them. To get <, I type &lt; (ampersand, l, t, semicolon).

Sigh. I learned this trivia for work. Someday it will be simpler!

10/9/07 8:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Thanks kad! I was stumped on this.
<
Excellent!

10/9/07 10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kad, don´t make me jealous ....

I´ve been trying to figure out how to make a link, but it won´t accept my reference.

Any help, please?

11/9/07 6:57 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Oh, don't be jealous. :-) I learned the basics to make a living. There's more advanced stuff I still look up when I need it.

I type this:

<a href="http://tinyurl.com/pj9q">Perfect Spirals</a>

to get this:

Perfect Spirals

11/9/07 7:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used that too, but it wouldn´t accept it!

Let me try again

Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple is creativity

11/9/07 10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It worked! Great. Thank you. Had a space there that needed to be removed.

Well, you won´t believe what I went through trying to figure out these italics and all because I was making everything more complicated than it really is. I was mixing it with some of the tags I use on my documents and while trying it on RU numerous times, a HTML window used to pop open and that was sooo confusing and I wondered if I had to write my comment in that box and then it would automatically be transferred to the comment box at RU, all real stupid and complicated.

So jm, can we use these HTML tags to make things blink, bold, colour them etc?

"No analysa! Please keep it simple!"

11/9/07 10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha Ha!

So, Perfect Spirals

How did you get there? Life is ALL about spirals. Your arm is a spiral; your legs too; the ovaries & the breasts; your finger prints; the ears; how a leaf falls from a tree; the galaxies; how you receive energy through your crown chakra; at the top/back part of your head there is a spiral, if you look you will see.

11/9/07 10:41 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I think that blogger only permits a subset of HTML markup codes. I've tried a few codes for things such as strike out and superscript but blogger rejects them.

Some of the following character references may or may not display as intended, depending on the software installed in your computer. New character references have been proposed over time.

&bull; --> •
&middot; --> ·
&mdash; --> —
&dagger; --> †
&Dagger; --> ‡
&laquo; --> «
&raquo; --> »

&hearts; &#9829; &#x2665; --> ♥ ♥ ♥

and our friend phi

&phi; &#966; &#x3C6; --> φ φ φ

11/9/07 11:49 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I like the circular spiraling motions in tai chi forms.

"at the top/back part of your head there is a spiral, if you look you will see."

Recently, I was reading that the hair on most people's heads go in clockwise whorls but for whatever reasons (such as left-handedness), some have counterclockwise whorls.

So then, while discussing with my haircutter the natural part in the hair, I mentioned what I'd read, and I laughingly asked her to look for the whorl. After an ominous silence and much brushing around of hair, she said that I didn't have a whorl! She said that some people don't have definite hair whorls. A few have two hair whorls on the head, and a very small number have three.

11/9/07 12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of the following character references....

oh, oh, this is all way to complicated, beyond my minds absorption scope. I am happy with the italics and links!

I was reading that the hair on most people's heads go in clockwise whorls but for whatever reasons (such as left-handedness), some have counterclockwise whorls.

Many years ago in a class I took there was a practical experiment we did. We had to place a pendulum above the head of men and women. With women the pendulum went counterclockwise, and with men it moved in a clockwise direction. When the man and women held hands, then the pendulum stopped and would not move at all (Harmony ?). Women in general are more charged by earth force (yin/ counterclockwise movement) which they receive through their feet and genitals, while men are more charged by heavens force (yang/clockwise) coming down into the midbrain. Interesting what your article says about gay people, (I did not read the whole 7 pages, just a couple) but it makes sense that gay men are more yin and lesbians more yang, have to say though I´m no expert in that area and if it applies to all gay people. What surprises me is that in gay men it is so strong that it does show up on their head whorls! That is real interesting, something to look into.

After an ominous silence and much brushing around of hair, she said that I didn't have a whorl! She said that some people don't have definite hair whorls. A few have two hair whorls on the head, and a very small number have three.

I´m sure you have one, maybe just not so defined. I have heard of two whorls, something again to do with yin and yang, but three????, that is even more extreme. Something else to look into.

11/9/07 1:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

"No analysa! Please keep it simple!"

LOL! As in Laugh out Loud AND Lots of Luck

Thanks for the links kad! Very much appreciated.

Very interesting on the Golden Ratio, So exact and universal. And the truth about the vortex. Will look further into the Golden Ratio.

The hair whorls are also fascinating. There's something we're missing about spirals, although the recent discussion seemed to touch on the significance. I don't know if analysa saw your drawing and explanation but she'd love it. I'll post the link in a bit, unless I hear otherwise.

Everything internally in a person can be read externally. How 'bout the spiraling fingerprints?

11/9/07 4:08 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

It's all quite intriguing. The connection with left-handedness interests me.

My brother is right-handed, but his internal organs (heart, liver, stomach, etc.) are positioned like a mirror reversal of most people. He said that he used to wonder, during the pledge of allegiance, when people were supposed to put their hands over their heart, why they placed their right hands over the left side of their chest. He feels the beating of his heart most strongly on the right. He wears a MedicAlert bracelet indicating situs inversus.

I will have to look for the whorl on his head.

11/9/07 4:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Extremely interesting.

11/9/07 4:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What are the complications of this? Any interesting astrospecs?

11/9/07 4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if analysa saw your drawing and explanation but she'd love it. I'll post the link in a bit

Please do post it jm.

Situs inversus? Hmmm, interesting. I write with my left, but everything else I do with my right and I eat with chopsticks. So, no issues around holding fork or knife, ahh, but I hold my spoon with my left.

11/9/07 5:40 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Altogether very rare, less than 1 in 10,000. In most cases, people don't realize that they have it until they have a medical exam.

No particular complications in the vast majority of cases. In perhaps 5%-10%, heart disease occurs if, say, the major vessels to the heart are in improper positions.

A basketball player has situs inversus, as does entertainer Donny Osmond.

Like hair whorls and handedness, genetics seems to be the major factor.

I read that identical twins can be opposite handed to each other, different hair whorls, and sometimes one twin may have situs inversus.

11/9/07 6:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Spiral talk

Starting at 11/8/07
5:42 PM

12/9/07 9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Just finished reading that link. I had followed it to a certain point, but I missed most of it. Not sure if time will allow me to leave a comment today, maybe tomorrow I get to tell you a bit about what I learned about spirals. This is just such a fascinating topic, that I am worried that if I start, it will become sooo involved .... but maybe that is good for me too, always something new to learn.

13/9/07 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this is what I have learned about spirals.

The basic pattern of all life is a spiral, you can see it in a sea shell, in the nervous system, digestive system, the position of the embryo, the growth of the vegetable kingdom, DNA, the atom, galaxies, fingerprints, everywhere there are spirals. If you look at a wave from the side, it is a spiral, the tides, again, the movement of a spiral, in and out. When you walk, run or lie down, it is the same. This wave like movement dominates all of life. That is why nothing in this world is fixed but always changing. Some call this law of change, true Justice. And the type of spiral it is, is a logarithmic spiral, which reflects the laws of yin and yang. Supposedly a perfect spiral has 7 orbits. Now, where does this originate from? I guess everyone knows by now that everything comes out of oneness, (God/ the Absolute) let´s call it Infinity.

It might be helpful for you to take a piece of paper and pencil and draw a spiral with 7 orbits. Doesn´t have to be perfect! (BTW, perfection does not exist in this physical world, that is why in all great art, like Japanese art, they used to leave, on purpose, like a little fault in what they created, like a beautiful cup would have a small crack or something).
I think seeing it on paper is real helpful, like with Kads drawing.
So you can draw your spiral, and at the outer orbit, where it starts, you can put the sign of infinity. So out of Infinity or this Oneness, everything was born and to arrive in this physical world that we are in, it goes through 7 stages. Out of each stage the next one is born.

7. Infinity, the World of Oneness, creates
6. the World of Polarity, which creates
5. the World of Energy or Vibration which creates
4. the Pre-Atomic World, out of which
3. the World of Elements is born, these create
2. the Vegetable and Animal Kingdom, which created
1. the Human Being

These 7 stages are a downward contracting movement, yang. When it arrives at the center, this movement changes and returns back again to infinity, that is an upward, dispersing movement, yin. One is materializing, the other is spiritualizing, the journey back.

Yin and yang is mostly known through that famous taoist symbol, well, you know the black and white with the dots in the middle. But all religions have their own symbol of this, the terminology is just different, but the understanding of it was lost throughout time, hidden and distorted, to enslave people in fear. Like in Judaism, it is the star. Two triangles, one representing yang movement, the other, upside down, represents yin movement. In Shintoism it is a reversed T, harmony between earth (horizontal line) and heaven (vertical line); the Christian symbol is the cross; in Buddhism it is the swastika (used by Hitler and everyone knows how he abused spiritual knowledge). In the swastika yin and yang combine and rotate representing universal reincarnation. Some say that what once was the spiral over time became the circle, which rotates, trapping us in the cycle of karma.

These 7 stages are reflected in the 7 days of creation in the bible, the 7 days of the week. For example, you can see the 7 orbits of this spiral in the arm: root of arm (1); shoulder till elbow (2); elbow till wrist (3); wrist till knuckles (4); the three joints of the fingers (5,6,7). Is is the same with the leg.
If you look at the vegetable kingdom: seeds (1); roots (2); stems (3); branches (4); leaves (5), flowers (6); fruits (7).
The 7 layers of the earth, the 7 colors, 7 layers in a grain of rice. It just goes on and on. It is also reflected in the environmental forces. Heavens force (yang,coming down) apparently is 7 times greater than earth force (yin, going up), and that is what creates gravity. So that is why balance in nature is not 50:50 but it is 7 times yang:1 time yin. In order for us to make balance with environmental forces, we need to take the opposite, 7 times yin to 1 part yang. This changes a bit at the poles and equator.

So you were using the wheel to refer to moving in and out of the center. That is good, because it is circular and you can see the movement of the spiral if you are aware of it. I was shown it in this way. Again, you better draw it then you´ll see it better.

You are going to draw a horizontal line with a dot, which represents the center. So draw a 7 inch horizontal line, make a dot and then go on and draw a line 1 inch long. The 1 inch line is the yang side, the 7 inch line is the yin side. The dot is the center. Now, no one is ever completely in the center, either a little more on the yang side or the yin side. Depending on your constitution, condition, the activities you do, food you eat, etc you will be either moving to one side or the other. If what you take in is mostly classified as more extreme, such as drugs, sugar, alcohol, tropical, you will be on the extreme yin side. If it is tuna, chicken, eggs, running 20 miles every day, pressure, pressure, pressure, you will be on the extreme side of yang. Most people consume from both extremes, as a result you see a lot of extreme emotions depositing deeply in the body.

The important part about this is understanding yin and yang on a practical level in life, so you can consciously navigate where you want to be. You will be in control. Some people use intuition, others instinct and with others it is mechanical, chemistry rules. People like moving at the extremes, it is, maybe, more interesting, but at the extremes you have little control, and usually suddenly some accident or sickness or tragedy can hit you. At the extremes, over time, you get exhausted and instead of evolving, you do the opposite. Understanding yin and yang really is just understanding karma. If you eat a bag of salty chips, you will want to drink a sweet soda or juice. One goes with the other.

I´m cutting this short, I´m hungry, have to go eat something.

(I don´t know how to make this shorter, I already have!)

14/9/07 8:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi jm,

last night it was around 1 in the morning when I got to read 2 comments of yours that you have now deleted. It was too late for me to respond at that time as I was too tired, but 3 main ideas stayed with me that you expressed about my above comment on spirals.
One, that my comment was too long and I should rewrite it;
Two, that a comment should be enjoyable to read;
And three, that the ideas that I was expressing were not my own and I should come from my own experience.

I´d like to respond to that, if I may.
As I expressed at the end of the comment, I had tried as much as possible within my ability to simplify and condense the ideas I was putting across. I recall you said once, space was infinite on this blog, and for me, when I present something that very much interests me, I can´t but help for it to be a bit longer than the average comment. That is why I chose not to participate in the dialog that had gone on earlier about this topic of spirals at the link you gave, it is VERY involved, at least from my perspective. And like I said, I even missed half of it because I thought it had ended. (Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with reading all the comments from different days, I probably don´t use Blogger to its full capacity, alerting me where new comments have been left).

I agree with you that a comment should be enjoyable to read, and as I have expressed previously, I lack the poetic or aesthetic command of the English language so I can´t fulfill that requirement, I´m sorry. Maybe my name should have been analysa-gringo. That being said, I believe one should make a clear distinction between the content and outer form of a comment.

This leads me to point three, you saying these were not my ideas. At the beginning of my comment on spirals I said “this is what I learned”, that to me implies “I was instructed through study and practice”. When I was 19 years old I was taught some cosmological studies that immediately sparked my heart. I feel it has been a privilege to learn about them over the years and to me they are my treasure chest. So, you are very right when you say they are not my ideas. They are part of the systems that I learned. However, I tried to simplify some of these ideas, as much as possible, using my own expression as much as possible and by giving practical examples to give some kind of background understanding of this. I don´t see anything wrong with doing this, I feel it creates kind of a wide open field which you can then explore actively with others.

Probably this is now, maybe the third or forth time that I find this exchange ending in some kind of conflict. Perhaps if we both had our NN in the 8 house or in Scorpio I would say “Yeahhh!!!!! let´s jump into this jm, let´s explore this, this is GREAT!” But, as we both have a NN in Taurus, I think we don´t need to do this anymore. I did try a few times to turn it around, but I guess having such a plutonic chart, with Pluto nearly aspecting all of my planets and in my progressed chart most everything sitting in the 8th or in Scorpio, for whatever, probably some karmic reasons, it has ended up in a place we probably don´t need to be anymore. This is your blog and I feel I should honor your space and how you have set the energies at a certain level, that is very enjoyable to a lot of people. So I feel I should respect that space and stop commenting here. And I say that with total neutrality.

Now, I´d like to challenge you to something! If you feel I should not use “ideas that are not my own” then I would like to challenge you to do the same. You use the ancient art of astrology to help you understand the movement of society, the lives of people and events that happen. The zodiac wheel as a system classifies cosmic constellations into an orderly pattern that can be used in practice. So, you also make use of “ideas that are not your own”. Can you talk about astrology without referring to planets, aspects, houses and mythology? Would you have come up by yourself with this system just through your own observation and experience?

I am forever grateful to the teachers I have had and to the guidance of my Soul to have lead me to these teachings.

Be well.

15/9/07 8:22 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Oh dear. Well, something seems to have spiraled out of balance! :-/

Well, perhaps another time. :-) Good luck with the NN Taurus thing.

Thanks for the information. I was curious about how the poles and equator affect the recommended yin-yang proportions.

15/9/07 3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

analysa,

it isn't just you. comments of mine, in fact, an entire blog was deleted because my musings (short comments) were ascribed to having motives of ill intent. (i was musing about the joys found in autumn.)

and, it isn't your language skills, because mine were also called into question, despite the fact that:

* i am a native speaker of American English
* i am an editor
* i am a published writer (poetry, short stories, editorials, feature and news stories)

my comments were short, as original as is possible while describing a season, and i thought, if not interesting to read, perhaps offered a spark for further discussion.

and yet, i was told i was spewing heavy personal sewage and told not to cry because the comments were deleted.

sewage, cry, what??!! @;-)

i decided then and there, whatever the problems were, they had little to do with "astrology" or me and pretty much everything to do with the blog owner.

this post will probably be deleted, but you might have a chance to read it before it goes.

namaste

16/9/07 9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw analysa, thank you for sharing your research and learning about spirals. off now to read and (hopefully) digest.

16/9/07 9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

might as well post again. @;-)

many times i described these two blogs as wellsprings, touchstones, outposts. from my pov, JM daily created the well anew while the offerings left by the commentators were bits and pieces of color and string (like a magpies leave on a mulberry bush). parts of a mandala, that i assumed we all gratefully examined and pondered and re-arranged into new forms.

ill-intent didn't occur to me. i didn't doubt anyone's motives and- for me- that was the ultimate blessing of this place.

ah, so, idealism lives. @;-)

16/9/07 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if boring is my worst sin, jm, i'll take it. @;-)

16/9/07 4:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

erased as much of the repetitive comments as possible. apologies for boring the audience. personally, i've been enthralled by everyone's stories, comments ideas and links.

godspeed to all in all endeavors and
"live the liminal" @;-)

16/9/07 5:41 PM  

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